Pensions if we move

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      Anon-WienAnon-Wien
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        I’m a UK citizen covered by the WA, and my spouse is a TCN also covered by the WA. We both live in Vienna and we’ve both made several years’ worth of statutory pension contributions in Austria, through our mandatory social insurance contributions (as do all employed and self-employed people). If in future we somehow move to another EU country, or to the UK, where we work until retirement, will our years of contributions in Austria be combined with our years of contributions in the other country when calculating our pension entitlement?

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        keithjdKeith Davies
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          It’s complex and I am still trying to get to the bottom of this myself but here is the response I got from the International, Future & Specialist Pension Centre in the UK (email: fpc.overseasteam@dwp.gov.uk)

          “When calculating State Pension entitlement, countries can exchange their National Insurance records and use foreign insurance to make sure that customer meets that country’s minimum contribution conditions.

          From 6 April 2016 you will need at least 10 qualifying years to receive any UK State Pension. If you do not have 10 years the reciprocal agreements will be considered to see if they can help you achieve the minimum number of years needed but the years from contributions made overseas will not count towards your new State Pension amount. You can also use NI contributions made in the UK to satisfy the minimum qualifying period to receive a Pension from an EEA country, or other country where the UK has a reciprocal agreement.

          If you already have 10 qualifying years on your UK National Insurance record the reciprocal agreement will not need to be looked at.

          Contributions paid in different countries are not added together to pay one single pension. Pensions are paid separately by each country that the customer has paid into.

          If you’ve worked in several countries, you may have accumulated pension rights in each of them.

          You’ll have to apply to the pension authority in the country where you’re living or you last worked. If you’ve never worked in the country where you’re living, your host country will forward your claim to the one you last worked in. That country is then responsible for processing your claim and bringing together records of your contributions from all the countries you worked in.

          Every country has its own rules. The age that a customer can start to get their State Pension may also be different in other countries. You will need to contact the countries that you have paid contributions in, and they will advise of your Pension entitlement under their rules.”

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          DavidK_ViennaDavidK_Vienna
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            Rather than start a new thread, I believe this matches my situation.
            I’m a UK Citizen with a Article 50 permit and have lived and worked in Vienna for a around 5 years as a salaried employee, so paying social security payments.

            If I move back to the UK, Im 40years old, would I be entitled to any pension payments from Austria when I get to retirement age?
            That email sounds like we’d need to contact the Austrian state pension provider ourselves to make a claim. Worryingly it sounds like I’d receive nothing as I have not worked for 15 years in Austria.

            Is this correct?

            Thank you for maintaining this forum, if has been very helpful.

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            keithjdKeith Davies
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              Actually I am not sure in this situation and it might be better to contact the Austrian pension authority. But I think the answer depends on whether you have contributions elsewhere you can use to help you qualify. Perhaps this article helps you though – https://www.britishinaustria.net/the-guide/financial-bootcamp/pensions/

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